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[endif]hello all,.
my wife and i are atheists, raised and living as jehovah's witnesses.
"And now kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with man by lying with a male. And preserve alive for yourselves all the little ones among the women who have not known the act of lying with a male.""
What's wrong with 32000 virgins? I think Mose and his buddies enjoyed themselves!I just wonder if Mose himself inspected the hymen of all those virgins!
In that case he had a lot to do!
i just learned that an 11 year old kid is taking the questions for baptism.
as soon as his father finished tellig me this, i told him that he should make his son wait, but he responded that he couldn't go against jehovah' spirit.
i gave the guy a break because he is the uneducated and naive immigrant who puts his heart, not his mind, into the religion.
"GALATIANS 6:4, 5 4 But let each one prove what his own work is, and then he will have cause for exultation in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person. 5 For each one will carry his own load.
Would you have us choose for him?"
Hmmm. the WTS makes a lot of choices for it's people, e g in areas of education, medical treatments etc.......that's just hypocrite.
Is this elder 100% sure that it's not the parents choise?
went to the weeknight meeting this week for the first time in a long while.
the study was all about how having children was ill-advised in this time of the end- the comments dwelled on what a burden children are, how you can spend more time in the ministry without children, and look what they did in jerusalem- they cannabilized their own children!
it's going to be so horrible to watch our children suffer during the great tribulation!
"I remember the talk given at the District Convention back in 1987 when I was baptised at the age of 19 entitled "Childrearing In The Time of The End" and now many people who were not even born back then are grown and have children of their own. I wonder how people who have been in that cult for so many years can keep a straight face when they hear this shit over and over."
Yes, I remember that... I was visiting 3 different District conventions that year....(I was young looking for a sister to marry)...but that talk started to open my eyes. In fact there were 3 lovley sisters wanting to marry me......I was almost to get engaged. The sunmmer 1988 I visited my last District assembly.
But yes..It makes me a bit sad....I didn't have children. Sometimes I think about how it would be having a family and children.
this case is in it's 9th year an has been touched upon briefly on and off.. the latest from the federal court is that all gated communites in puerto rico have until april 23 to provide the watchtower corporation full access.... this means the entry code or remote control devices that open the front fence.. this is clearly an act of provocation in order to create "pseudo-persecution" thereby increasing fs hours and "voluntary donations"....
But...wait a minute.......isn't field service just personal ministry and not organised by the WTS? This is strange.
this case is in it's 9th year an has been touched upon briefly on and off.. the latest from the federal court is that all gated communites in puerto rico have until april 23 to provide the watchtower corporation full access.... this means the entry code or remote control devices that open the front fence.. this is clearly an act of provocation in order to create "pseudo-persecution" thereby increasing fs hours and "voluntary donations"....
That's fine! I hope that all apostates, including the AAWA will get the same access to all brooklyn facilities!
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[endif]hello all,.
my wife and i are atheists, raised and living as jehovah's witnesses.
Rule #1: Be very careful...not pusshy or agressive
Rule #2: Debating a JW it's better to focus on "bible bullshit" than on "WTS bullshit"
Rule #3: Ask questions. try not to be overtly apostate. Let her think...don't bring all TTATT.
we have an older very faithfull elder body and whenever they talk about armegeddon or the end of this system of thiings, they always use "very near, close, soon, etc".
well on the stage one elder when talking about the great tribuation this week , he said "possibly in our lifetime" !!!
that really caught my attention and even my wife's too!
"Mr. Splane of their Governing Body said that it may not happen in our lifetime, that it may not happen for thousands of years"
Was this said recently? Maybe the GB is up to something? I'm thinking of 2014 and possible changes in interpretation/chronology.
i am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
"he AAWA website is down for maintenance. "
Yes, I noticed. It's probably down for 48 hours. Maybe something is happening?
i am an inactive jw.
i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.
i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.
That's sad Sic! A lot of people have tried to make the AAWA delete that group, but they did not listen.
I don't understand one thing. How do the AAWA think. They know that there are pro-WT apologists in that group...and they have no problem with that fact...no problem with potential outings and no problems with potential moles? Everything is just great.
i have had some "friendly" conversations with people on my coninuing fade journey.
i realize that isn't always wise, but they are all non-related to each other, and we keep it light.
even my brother got in the mix.
"So what comes next is the debate over Gods "chosen people". The justification seems to go like this. "If you obey the GB but they are wrong, they are accountable and have a weightier judgement, if you disobey them, you have gone against the annointed of jehovah and it doesn't mattter if you are right." "
I think this is spot-on JW rank and file psychology. They have been so manipulated not to think and question, just to obey.But beeng so outright that it's not a question of right and wrong is unique. One would expect that being right has someting to do with the "truth". :)
